Extended Interviews: Faith Runs Deep

Extended Interviews: Faith Runs Deep

When making Faith Runs Deep, Karl Faase sat down with remarkable men and women who told him their story and helped unearth our Australian stories of faith. So much of what our guests shared could never fit into our 12-part series, but these extended interviews give you a treasure trove of insights and experiences.
39 episodes
30 mins per episode

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When making Faith Runs Deep, Karl Faase sat down with remarkable men and women who told him their story and helped unearth our Australian stories of faith. So much of what our guests shared could never fit into our 12-part series, but these extended interviews give you a treasure trove of insights and experiences.

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Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Founded by his father John Kirk in 1950, Clonakilla Wines has become an award-winning world-renowned label. Tim and Karl sat down over a glass of their top shelf Shiraz Viognier to talk about Tim's growing up around wine and Christian faith, his own personal faith decision as a teenager, and how faith can be expressed in all areas of life, even in business.

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Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Founded by his father John Kirk in 1950, Clonakilla Wines has become an award-winning world-renowned label. Tim and Karl sat down over a glass of their top shelf Shiraz Viognier to talk about Tim's growing up around wine and Christian faith, his own personal faith decision as a teenager, and how faith can be expressed in all areas of life, even in business.

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Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Interview 01 - Tim Kirk

Founded by his father John Kirk in 1950, Clonakilla Wines has become an award-winning world-renowned label. Tim and Karl sat down over a glass of their top shelf Shiraz Viognier to talk about Tim's growing up around wine and Christian faith, his own personal faith decision as a teenager, and how faith can be expressed in all areas of life, even in business.

23 mins

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Interview 02 - Gemma Bell

Interview 02 - Gemma Bell

Karl Faase joined Gemma Bell on the Mornington Peninsula to talk about how she ended up running Fusion - a house for young people experiencing or at risk of homelessness. With regular talk of clairvoyance and seances in Gemma's childhood home, she found herself afraid to sleep at night, with reciting Psalm 23 over and over to herself being her one comfort. Gemma spoke to Karl about finding genuine acceptance and community at a local church and how her passion for helping young people has brought her and her family to lead Fusion.

34 mins

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Interview 03 - Andy Gourley

Interview 03 - Andy Gourley

Red Frogs and Schoolies are practically synonymous. As Andy says, 'Anywhere that young people get to, the Froggies are there'. Andy Gourley started Red Frogs in the 90's when he saw the destruction and danger first hand of young people and the drinking culture at schoolies. It is now an international organisation, in over 12 countries. Karl and Andy chat about the incredible story and influence of Red Frogs, as well as Andy's own personal faith journey.

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Interview 04 - Colin Buchanan

Interview 04 - Colin Buchanan

From city boy to winning a Golden Guitar at the Tamworth Country Music Festival, Colin Buchanan has had a fascinating and God-led journey. Living and studying in Bourke as a young couple, Colin's natural musical and story-telling talent eventually led him to being one of the most well-known names in Christian music, particularly children's Christian music. In this interview, Karl explores how Colin's life and faith journey has unfolded and where the fingerprints of God are evident.

26 mins

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Interview 05 - Riverbank Frank

Interview 05 - Riverbank Frank

On the main street of Dubbo, with a beautiful statue of Indigenous activist Bill Ferguson as the backdrop, Karl Faase interviews Indigenous elder and poet, Riverbank Frank. While Christian faith was in his family, as Riverbank grew up the disconnect he saw between what he was told about Jesus as a young boy and the church's inaction in issues concerning his people led him to a deep anger. With Sunday now being his self-professed, 'busiest day of the week', Riverbank's journey and the faithful followers of Jesus that walked with him, is inspiring and impacting.

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Interview 06 - Tony Hoang

Interview 06 - Tony Hoang

In the middle of bustling Cabramatta, Karl Faase heard the remarkable story of Tony Hoang. Born to vietnamese refugees, Tony had a difficult family life and his desire for love and acceptance led him to joining a local gang and ever-increasing crimes and dangers. Now a pastor at a church in the area he used to deal drugs in, Tony's conversion story is both miraculous and humorous, as only God can do.

32 mins

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Interview 07 - Peter Gibbs

Interview 07 - Peter Gibbs

Karl interviewed Peter Gibbs for Faith Runs Deep at the Apex Oval, battling lawnmowers and planes to capture his amazing life story. Peter, a former Rugby League player, had his big break when he got a phone call from legendary player Arthur Beeson. Dealing with alcohol dependency and injuries, Peter's rugby career was disappointingly short-lived. And when his sister tragically died in police custody, Peter was given the choice of inciting a riot in the small town, or choosing peace and eventual forgiveness. Peter's faith and wisdom have been hard-earned, and we are thankful to have heard his story.

37 mins

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Interview 08 - Michael Gladwin

Interview 08 - Michael Gladwin

The incredible stories of faith and courage held by chaplains in the Australian armed services is the subject of Michael Gladwin's award-winning book, Captains of the Souls. In the midst of war and death, these chaplains were so often embodying Jesus on the battlefield, going where it was most dangerous, ministering to the fearful, and holding funeral services with bullets flying overhead. In the beautiful Canberra War Memorial, Karl spoke with Lecturer and Author Michael Gladwin, unearthing some of these stories.

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Interview 09 - Cass Langton

Interview 09 - Cass Langton

Global Worship and Creative Pastor Cass Langton's passion for spiritual creativity and worshipping God through creative and artistic talents is clearly evident in this interview. Cass leads teams of musicians, artists, dancers, photographers and technicians who are using their giftings for the Kingdom of God in amazing ways. She spoke with Karl about how the Bible shows God's love of creativity and the creators, where she sees worship being expressed in different ways, and her own journey of following God wherever He leads.

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Interview 10 - Rosemary Kariuki

Interview 10 - Rosemary Kariuki

Rosemary Kariuki won the Australian of the Year Local Hero award in 2021 for her incredible work with the Australian Police in helping and supporting migrants and refugees. Escaping conflict in her home country of Kenya, Rosemary came to Australia with only $250 in her pocket and a remarkable faith in God's provision. Her faith, her tenacity, and her love of people have led her to being a voice for migrants, especially for women suffering under domestic abuse.

26 mins

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Interview 11 - Bindi Cole Chocka

Interview 11 - Bindi Cole Chocka

Karl Faase interviews Bindi Cole Chocka and they talk about her incredible journey. Bindi's childhood was one of loneliness, abuse and neglect, leading her to a drug addiction and eventually to a gaol cell in London, where she encountered the overwhelming love of Jesus. Now, as a renowned artist with her works shown in galleries all across Australia, she continues to face many challenges in regards to her faith in the art world. Bindi's journey highlights how the love of Jesus reaches into the darkest of places, and how He asks us to follow Him no matter the cost.

38 mins

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Interview 12 - Dave Jensen

Interview 12 - Dave Jensen

In this interview with Dave Jensen, the former Army Commander tells the story of how he came to the realisation that the things of this world, which he likens to salt water, will never be enough to satisfy. After becoming a father at 17 years old, Dave joined the army for income and lived a turbulent and destructive life for many years. Jesus broke into his heart in a remarkable way and turned Dave's path right around, showing Jesus truly is the way, the truth and the life. Dave's is a story that will resonate with so many and it's a privilege to share it with you.

37 mins

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Interview 13 - Paul Roe

Interview 13 - Paul Roe

We interviewed Paul Roe, the Outback Historian, three times to talk about some influential people of faith who lived and served in the outback. Our first interview with Paul was at the Royal Flying Doctor Museum in Dubbo to chat about the life, faith and lagacy of John Flynn, the man who started the Royal Flying Doctor Service. Paul's depth of knowledge and passion for John Flynn's story is clear and it was wonderful to learn more about this inspirational man. This story is one we don't want to let Australians forget, a person of deep faith who saw a great need and created an amazing institution which continues to save lives today.

18 mins

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Interview 14 - Tim Booker

Interview 14 - Tim Booker

Despite having grown up going to church every Sunday, Tim Booker realised he didn't know as much about the Christian faith as perhaps he should when a friend at work asked him what it was all about. Tim's search and growth in this knowledge led him to becoming a Minister with the Anglican Church and to serving as a chaplain in the Australian Army. Karl Faase interviewed Tim in Sydney to talk about his time in the Army as a chaplain as well as the amazing breakthrough he saw occur in Dave Jensen, another of our interviewees.

25 mins

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Interview 15 - Eloise Wellings

Interview 15 - Eloise Wellings

After missing out on competing in three Olympic Games due to injury, athlete Eloise Wellings was finally able to live out her dream of stepping onto the track at the London Olympics in 2012. Karl Faase interviews Eloise in her local area of Cronulla, where she spoke about the ups and downs in her running career, how God used her missing out on her first Olympics to bring her to faith, and the Love Mercy Foundation which she co-founded with fellow athlete, Julius Achon. Love Mercy Foundation seeks to empower communities in Uganda to overcome poverty caused by the devastation of civil war.

20 mins

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Interview 16 - Sandra Dumas

Interview 16 - Sandra Dumas

Karl Faase interviewed Sandra Dumas in Tweed Heads on the NSW and QLD border. Sandra is a pastor of Ganggalah Church and from her own struggles with identity as an Indigenous woman and a Christian, Sandra now seeks to show her people that being a Christian doesn't mean giving up your cultural heritage, but it can and should be embraced and brought into your faith. Sandra and Karl spoke about her family connection to the Stolen Generation and the impact that still carries in Indigenous communities today, as well as her hope for the future of all Australians together.

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Interview 17 - Tim Kelly

Interview 17 - Tim Kelly

Tim Kelly is a world-champion bull and saddle-bronc rider who now runs schools in this field, sharing his knowledge of riding, as well as sharing about his Christian faith. After becoming world champion at the Canadian Calgary Rodeo in 1980, Tim still felt an emptiness and a feeling that there was something more. He found what he was looking for after joining in on a church service at a rodeo in Melbourne, where a bikie from God Squad gave his testimony. This changed Tim dramatically, as he devoured cassette tapes of sermons on long drives, and began to pray for God to overcome his fear before each ride. Surrounded by cows and bulls, Karl Faase spoke with Tim about his career, his faith and how he now seeks to do as Jesus did, and share the love of Christ in his world of bull and saddle-bronc riding.

22 mins

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Interview 18 - John Anderson

Interview 18 - John Anderson

Karl Faase went out to Tambar Springs, a small town in far-west NSW, where John Anderson's family have lived and farmed for 5 generations. In this interview, Karl and John spoke about his journey to faith during his university years, his view on farming and care of the land for future generations, and his insights into politics from his many years as a member of Parliament and the deputy Prime Minister of Australia.

28 mins

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Interview 19 - Roy Williams (Part 1)

Interview 19 - Roy Williams (Part 1)

Roy Williams' dedicated research into the faith-filled people who built this nation has been significant in altering the narrative about the history of Christianity in Australia. His own journey to faith and self-confessed ignorance into the history of his own nation led him to write many books including 'God, Actually' and 'Post God Nation?' Roy and Karl talk about his own faith journey, of taking his daughter to Sunday school, thinking he'd have a free Sunday morning but quickly becoming interested in what he read in the Bible and coming to an intellectual place of believing, before also experiencing the emotional power of the Holy Spirit.

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Interview 19 - Roy Williams (Part 2)

Interview 19 - Roy Williams (Part 2)

Roy Williams' dedicated research into the faith-filled people who built this nation has been significant in altering the narrative about the history of Christianity in Australia. His own journey to faith and self-confessed ignorance into the history of his own nation led him to write many books including 'God, Actually' and 'Post God Nation?' Roy and Karl talk about his own faith journey, of taking his daughter to Sunday school, thinking he'd have a free Sunday morning but quickly becoming interested in what he read in the Bible and coming to an intellectual place of believing, before also experiencing the emotional power of the Holy Spirit.

38 mins

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Interview 20 - Narelle Urquhart

Interview 20 - Narelle Urquhart

Narelle Urquhart's life story is turbulent, heartbreaking, redemptive and inspiring. Growing up in traumatic circumstances, Narelle left home at just 14 years of age, finding herself homeless and in an abusive relationship. Years of losses and ongoing mental health battles eventually led her to Queensland where an Indigenous elder and pastor took her to church that very first Sunday. There she found faith, love, acceptance and hope which she has passed onto her four children. As both an artist and the Indigenous Engagment Advisor at Bond University, Narelle uses her full 'toolbag' of life experiences to help Indigenous young people who stuggle with identity, as well as educate others in what their role is in the Indigenous and Australian story.

36 mins

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Interview 21 - Bernadette Black

Interview 21 - Bernadette Black

After taking the ute across Bass Strait on the Spirit of Tasmania, Karl and Jane drove down to windy Hobart to interview Bernadette Black. Bernadette's experience of having a baby at 16 years old, and not finding the national organisational support she was looking for, led her to starting her own organisation meeting the needs of expecting and parenting teens. Brave Foundation is now nation-wide, and is paving a way for other nations to follow in this important work. As a voice and advocate for these young people, Bernadette is living out her Christian faith, making a difference to so many.

29 mins

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Interview 22 - Anne Pattel-Gray

Interview 22 - Anne Pattel-Gray

As the first Indigenous person to gain a PhD from Sydney University, Dr Anne Pattel-Gray's experience of racism from both outside and inside the church ignited a flame that drove her to pursue higher education, with the aim of giving her people the words to use in their campaign for justice. Anne's firm faith in God keeps her hopeful for reconciliation and for an easier path for future generations of Indigenous people. Karl and Anne discuss the inspiration of her mother, her Christian faith and the faith that runs very deep in the First Nations people.

31 mins

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Interview 23 - Andrew Fisher

Interview 23 - Andrew Fisher

With the two utes lined up in the starting pits of the iconic Bathurst track, Karl Faase interviewed Andrew 'Fishtail' Fisher, a former businessman who now drives a race car with the word 'Jesus' printed all over it. Through not shying away from making his Christian faith public, Andrew now has many opportunities to speak in schools and prisons about his story and his faith, which has changed the lives of so many. Karl chatted with Andrew about how he got started in racing, the ministry that has grown out of it, and the difficult season in his life that helped grow him and showed that God is in control, not us.

33 mins

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Interview 24 - John Harris (Part 1)

Interview 24 - John Harris (Part 1)

John Harris' incredible depth of knowledge into the history of Australia, both Indigenous and European settlement is shown in his many books on the subject, especially his powerful book titled One Blood. Karl Faase sat down with him in the chapel of St Mark's Theological College in Canberra and discussed his parents work and legacy as Bible translators in the Northern Territory, his own research into the relationship between the Indigenous people and the church in Australia, and the many stories of faithful people who shared the Gospel with others. While often a hard story to hear, our history needs to be remembered and learned from, and John's passionate work in this area is so valuable.

35 mins

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Interview 24 - John Harris (Part 2)

Interview 24 - John Harris (Part 2)

John Harris' incredible depth of knowledge into the history of Australia, both Indigenous and European settlement is shown in his many books on the subject, especially his powerful book titled One Blood. Karl Faase sat down with him in the chapel of St Mark's Theological College in Canberra and discussed his parents work and legacy as Bible translators in the Northern Territory, his own research into the relationship between the Indigenous people and the church in Australia, and the many stories of faithful people who shared the Gospel with others. While often a hard story to hear, our history needs to be remembered and learned from, and John's passionate work in this area is so valuable.

23 mins

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Interview 25 - Peter Bolt

Interview 25 - Peter Bolt

In historic St Luke's Anglican Church in Liverpool, Karl Faase interviewed Peter Bolt to talk about some of the most influential and evangelical figures in early Australian history. Peter shares his extensive knowledge about the lives and legacies of men such as Samuel Marsden, who came as a chaplain to the convicts sent from England; Thomas Moore, who left his vast fortune to the work of the Gospel in Australia; William Cowper the first full-time minister at St Philip's Church Hill Anglican and William Dawes, whose passion for linguistics and his evangelical heart led him to sharing the Gospel with Indigenous people. Each of these men helped shape Australia with their Christian faith.

39 mins

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Interview 26 - Stephen Chavura

Interview 26 - Stephen Chavura

Karl Faase sat down with Stephen Chavura in a beautiful part of Sydney University to talk about some of the influential figures who encouraged free settlers and immigration into Australia throughout the 19th century, including J.D Lang and George Fife Angas. Stephen also shared his depth of knowledge on the 1836 Church Act set up by Richard Burke, which allowed churches of different denominations to be built throughout Australia, and how both the Labor and Liberal parties had evangelical Christian roots. Stephen's research into these areas has encouraged him in his faith, an encouragement he hopes other Christians will take up as they learn of the Christian foundations of Australia.

36 mins

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Interview 27 - Hugh Chilton

Interview 27 - Hugh Chilton

At the beautiful Scots College near Bondi Beach, Karl Faase interviewed Hugh Chilton, a historian, teacher and researcher into how Australia's identity as a Christian nation changed during the 1960's, 70's and 80's. Hugh and Karl spoke about the impact of Billy Graham's 1959 crusade, which packed out stadiums in both Melbourne and Sydney, as well as the culture shift that occurred in the next few decades. Hugh also talks about the Scots College where he works and its partnership with Indigenous communities which enables boys from all over Australia to come and learn at the College.

20 mins

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Interview 28 - Laurel Gore

Interview 28 - Laurel Gore

Prison ministry is an incredibly challenging but beautiful calling, one that Laurel Gore has devoted so much of her life to. As a young adult, Laurel was confronted with the loneliness, hardship and pain of those in the prison system and has worked ever since on her goal that 'no one should have no one'. The ministry of people like Laurel has changed so many lives throughout the centuries and you'll appreciate Laurel's heart for those she sees as 'God's favourites'. Karl also spoke about Laurel's family history where one side of her family overcame gambling addictions after becoming Christians and the other side of her family was involved in starting the Salvation Army in Australia.

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Interview 28 - Laurel Gore

Interview 28 - Laurel Gore

Prison ministry is an incredibly challenging but beautiful calling, one that Laurel Gore has devoted so much of her life to. As a young adult, Laurel was confronted with the loneliness, hardship and pain of those in the prison system and has worked ever since on her goal that 'no one should have no one'. The ministry of people like Laurel has changed so many lives throughout the centuries and you'll appreciate Laurel's heart for those she sees as 'God's favourites'. Karl also spoke about Laurel's family history where one side of her family overcame gambling addictions after becoming Christians and the other side of her family was involved in starting the Salvation Army in Australia.

18 mins

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Interview 29 - Kent Mayo

Interview 29 - Kent Mayo

In this special extended interview, Jane and Karl sit down with Kent Mayo in Uralla, NSW. He is the curator at the McCrossins Mill Museum and they spoke about Jane's great grandfather and Australia's first world sporting champion, Ned Trickett. Ned Trickett was a sculler or rower, who won the world rowing championship on the Thames in 1876. He returned to Australia a hero, with thousands of people coming out to see him. Ned soon learned though that fame and fortune rarely last, and he found himself destitute and looking for a job on the streets of Sydney. Hearing the words of a Salvation Army preacher, Ned learned about the love and acceptance of Christ, changing the course of his life and the lives of his family, including Jane's. Kent has beautifully portrayed Ned's life and legacy in the Museum in Uralla.

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Interview 29 - Kent Mayo

Interview 29 - Kent Mayo

In this special extended interview, Jane and Karl sit down with Kent Mayo in Uralla, NSW. He is the curator at the McCrossins Mill Museum and they spoke about Jane's great grandfather and Australia's first world sporting champion, Ned Trickett. Ned Trickett was a sculler or rower, who won the world rowing championship on the Thames in 1876. He returned to Australia a hero, with thousands of people coming out to see him. Ned soon learned though that fame and fortune rarely last, and he found himself destitute and looking for a job on the streets of Sydney. Hearing the words of a Salvation Army preacher, Ned learned about the love and acceptance of Christ, changing the course of his life and the lives of his family, including Jane's. Kent has beautifully portrayed Ned's life and legacy in the Museum in Uralla.

18 mins

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Interview 30 - Stuart Piggin

Interview 30 - Stuart Piggin

Stuart Piggin and Karl Faase sat down in one of the oldest churches in Australia, the historic St Philip's Church Hill on York St in Sydney CBD. Stuart is a renowned historian and author and his in-depth knowledge of Australia's history is remarkable. His years of study and research show clearly the Christian foundations of Australia in every part of society, including politics, business and the press. Karl and Stuart spoke about a range of topics, covering the early Governors of Australia, the differences in the provisioning of the First and Second Fleets, the waves of immigration of free settlers, the revivals that have happened in Australia throughout the years and the Christian foundations that formed some of Australia's early newspapers.

43 mins

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Interview 31 - Paul Roe (Toorale Interview)

Interview 31 - Paul Roe (Toorale Interview)

In Karl Faase's second interview with the Outback Historian Paul Roe, he visited Toorale Station, a massive historic property in far-west NSW. Toorale Station and two other Sheep Stations nearby were owned and ran by Sir Samuel McCaughey in the late 19th century, a man who has been dubbed Australia's 'father of invention'. McCaughey's innovation spurred him on to create remarkable new technology such as the Wolseley mechanical shears and his Christian faith led him to invest his wealth and his knowledge in future generations. Paul and Karl spoke about McCaughey's gumption in getting a job done well, his generosity in extending his resources to others, his genius for invention and his legacy that is sadly not known well enough today.

20 mins

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Interview 32 - Paul Roe (Bourke Interview)

Interview 32 - Paul Roe (Bourke Interview)

Karl's third interview with the Outback Historian, Paul Roe, was in the heart of Bourke, beside the Darling River. Bourke is a place Paul knows well, having set up Cornerstone as a place where young people could come to study and work in the outback, getting to know God's land. One Cornerstone resident was Colin Buchanan, who realised his talent and passion for storytelling through song while living in Bourke. Paul discusses the extraordinary history of this far-west town, which saw a large move of immigration and settlers in the late 1800's, as well as a near civil war during the shearers strike in the 1890's. Paul also shares his knowledge of WG Spence. WG Spence's reading of the Bible and his picture of Jesus as a working man led him to found many Unions, including the Shearers Unions which eventually became the Labor Party in Australia.

15 mins